Showing posts with label Chris Nilan. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Chris Nilan. Show all posts

Wednesday, August 01, 2007

Can Patrice Be Price Worthy?



















Talk of Patrice Brisebois returning as a Montreal Canadiens has ignited much lively discussion of late, as news has it, an offer from the defenseman sits on Bob Gainey's desk.

I didn't initially like the idea, but I'm warming to it. Seemingly nonsensical at first thought, I think I may have figured this thing out. Finally! Maybe!

While the Habs GM ponders the move that would see the 13 year Habs vet back in the lineup as a sixth blueliner, spare part, or tutor to the teams younger D-men, fans have been pointing to other former Habs who returned from glory years to not so heroic homecomings.

Looking over the names of Habs who've come back for more pie, you must skip through and eliminate those who have gotten but a taste of crow.

I have found tha often the result for the returning player (and fans) ends up being nothing more than a ceremonial duty tour for the first few games back. At least until everyone including management realizes why they'd been gotten rid of in the first place.

In the Canadiens long history, I have found 20 such players (there might be a few more I missed) who have returned to the team, to varying degrees of success. I have listed the more prominant ones below in reverse chronological order, and it can be seen that rare are the occassions where a player has returned improved and been worth the while.



















Jassen Cullimore* 1996-98 / 2007 (buyout)
Patrick Traverse* 2000-03 / 2006-07 (Hamilton)
Stephane Quintal 1995-99 / 2001-04
Oleg Petrov 1992-96 / 1999-2003
Jim Campbell 1993-96 (Fredericton) / 2000-01
Shayne Corson 1985-92 / 1996-99
Frederick Chabot 1989-94 / 1998-99
Stephane Richer 1984-91 / 1996-98
Chris Nilan 1979-88 / 1991-92
Gaston Gingras 1979-83 / 1985-88
Alfie Turcotte* 1983-86 / 1987-88 (futures)
Rejean Houle 1969-73 / 1976-83
Jim Roberts 1963-67 / 1971-77
Noel Price* 1965-67 / 1971-72 (Nova Scotia) / 1975-76 (NS)
Claude Larose 1962-68 / 1970-75
George Hainsworth 1926-33 / 1936-37
Howie Morenz 1923-34 / 1936-37
Newsy Lalonde 1909-10 / 1910-11 / 1912-22

* Did not play for the Canadiens upon return

In the Brisebois case, no one's expectating a rebirth (define that anyway you choose!) of any kind, but a certain respectability would be expected at any price.

If it is gnawing at your cranium that Gainey has a particular idea in mind, one you cannot put a finger on or comprehend at first glance - you aren't alone.

There is always a lesson to be learned from history - I have learned. Especially when it comes to the Habs. So off I went searching for that notion amidst the second-time-arounders in Hab history.

Of the names above, only Rejean Houle and Oleg Petrov returned to find better days, relatively speaking of course, each shared meager beginnings. Both Shayne Corson, for a short spell, and Stephane Richer showed flashes of their former selves. You could be excused for missing it if you blinked!

Stephane Quintal had good years left in him upon his return, and was a servicable battler for the Habs a second time. Ditto for Gaston Gingras, confidently improved by a few years away from the pressure cooker. Only free agent lucridousness pulled Quintal away from Montreal in the first place.

Brisebois is too long in the tooth to fit into either of those scenarios, so there is not much of a lesson to be found here.

Two successful repatriations were Claude Larose and Jim Roberts, both rock solid defensive specialists who returned as consistant as they left. Each were missed contributors to past Stanley Cups, and therefore vital to the teams composition despite their non spotlight roles.

Brisebois was barely becoming a regular when he was part of the 1993 Cup champions.

Unlike Petrov, other reclammation projects named Jim Cambell and Alfie Turcotte weren't even worthy of the afterthought. Again, no resemblance to the Brisebois situation.

Several returnees were of the spare part variety, filling different roles from playing on the farm to becoming the future considerations in their own trades. These return deals are often a case of "having" to take on a contract, rather than "wanting" the players return. A few (Steve Shutt, Claude Provost, Chris Nilan) simply wished to retire as Montreal Canadiens, and had their wished filled by good hearted GM's.

In the Habs earliest years, Howie Morenz (ceremonial), George Hainsworth (injury replacement), and Newsy Lalonde (bucks, more bucks and even better bucks) made return appearances. Of the three, only Lalonde was in his prime, returning after his first and third pro years, after following the lure of the mighty dollar to Renfrew and the West coast.

Now the mere mention of the Brisebois name among such legends....I'll stop here - hardly fair comparisons.

Perhaps the imminant return of Brisebois mirrors best that of defenseman Noel Price, who played for the Canadiens from 1965 to 1967.

One can be excused for not remembering the sturdy and dependable rearguard, whose best qualities had everything to do with his ability to teach and reach younger players. (He was before my time, but I read and learn!) Not only was Price highly thought for his player traits as a stay at home blueliner, his off ice habits were also in high regard.

Price taugh kids to be men, taught them proper eating and rest habits, stayed in exempliary shape himself, and ship shaped a raggedy ass D corps into league leaders quickly with his wise advise and teachings. He was revered overnight for his insights.




















Twice after 1967, the Canadiens sought Price's services. The inexperienced 1971-72 Nova Scotia Voyageurs were the first beneficiaries of Price's good hand with kids as he helped straighten out a club going nowhere fast into Calder Cup champions. Brought back almost strictly to tutor Larry Robinson, it could be said the Habs owned him a debt of gratitude for years.

The favor was repaid to Price, who found the NHL once again at age 36, a gift trade from the Habs to Price and the expansion Atlanta Flames. There until he was 40, the Canadiens snapped him up once again, and he worked his wizardry in Nova Scotia on such future NHL'ers as Brian Engblom, Bill Nyrop, Rick Chartraw and Gilles Lupien. Price led them all in scoring with 39 points in 73 games.

Another Calder Cup was the result.

Price later coached in the Habs system.

Now should Brisebois play a similar role to Price, that of AHL guru to the likes of Ryan O'Byrne, J.P. Cote, and Mathieu Carle, it might just be one of the more brilliant moves Gainey makes.

Time will tell if Brisebois is able and willing, and buys into such notions.

Hey, if you take the "a" and "t" out of Patrice, it spells....

Monday, June 25, 2007

Draft Day Fun With The Subbanator


















You just gotta love P.K. Subban, the Belleville Bulls defenseman who was the second of six rearguards taken by the Habs in the draft this past weekend.

Subban has earned the moniker "The Subbanator" for his outspokeness and quotability. He left an impression on everyone it seems and was beside himself with joy at being selected by his favorite team.

No sooner did he have the Habs jersey pulled over his head when his exuberance shone out loud. He wasted little time in declaring that not only would he make the Canadiens come training camp, he had plans for his own personal day with Lord Stanley's mug all in order.



















When Subban declared, "I want to bring another Stanley Cup to Montreal and then bring the Cup back home, parade it through the streets of Toronto and let all the kids touch it", the room just fell apart.

The Etobikoke native wasn't a Leafs fan for long. "I started as a Toronto fan but my dad is the biggest Montreal fan in the world," said Subban. "You walk in our house and there's Habs flags everywhere.

"So I ended up growing up a huge Habs fans. This is truly amazing."

Canadiens scout Trevor Timmins is quite high on Subban, professing that he will be without doubt the fastest player in camp.

From the scouting reports I've read so far, Subban's skills are not in question. His offensive game and his speed are raved about, while his defensive liabilities are suspect. From the soundboards of Bulls fans, it is told he is often prone to foregoing the safer route in sacrifice of an up ice rush - a trait not uncommon in eager and skilled youngsters.

One thing is for certain, his enthusiasm is awful contagious, already drawing one comparison to Jeremy Roenick, for better or worse. Time will tell whether this talented youngster can reign in his instincts for the more subtle aspects of the game.

Upon researching info on Subban, I came upon an interesting site called P.A.S.S., which is a summer hockey camp. I'm not sure what the initials stand for, but the site featured P.K. in their Student Spotlight section as a player with ...get this...the North York Canadiens!

The picture below shows Subban as a Novice AAA player and I'm guessing he was all of 10 or 11 years old at the time. The short bio makes it sound as thought the P.K. we are just getting to know has been this incredible character for quite some time. He'll be a refreshing treat!









"P. K. is a highly skilled novice who has attended PASS for four years. A player with exceptional desire and drive, you can expect maximum effort from P.K. when he is on the ice. A third year novice playing his first season of AAA, P.K. enjoyed winning the MTHL Carnation Cup with the Canadians. A versatile player, P.K. plays forward and defense, and is an asset to the team in either position. P.K. is an excellent student who takes his studies seriously. He enjoys art, math and reading. P.K.’s goal is to play in the NHL and to be dentist when he is finished playing hockey. In the summer, P.K. enjoys outdoor sports, including basketball."

IN THE ODDITIES CATEGORY

One of the fun parts of the NHL Entry Draft for me is hearing the great stories from past drafts. Someone, I forget who or where exactly, made mention of this tale. I'd heard this one long ago and figured I'd look it up.

It occured in 1974 when the event was titled the NHL Amateur Draft. Back then the draft was along and drawn out affair, sometimes lasting past 20 rounds. Seems as long as managers were still choosing players, the process would continue. On occasion, the day would end with one team picking several players in succession.

An example of this happened in 1978, when the Canadiens used picks 229 throught 234 to select the six final picks of the day. It seemed a fruitless exercise to many, however the Canadiens managed to unearth two future NHL'ers with those picks - Louis Sleigher and the one and only Chris Nilan!










In 1974, however, Buffalo Sabres general manager Punch Imlach became restless with the time consuming unfoldings, and protested it in a unique manner.

Using pick #183, Imalch selected Taro Tsujimoto of the Tokyo Katanas. Everyone thought that the Sabres had uncovered a new talent base from across the ocean.

The surprising pick delayed the draft some, and it was only after an attempted check a week later was it discovered that the player was in fact inexistant.

Imlach was found out and later revealed that Tsujimoto was a waiter in a Japanese restaurant that he and the teams owners had visited the night before. "Katana" was actually the Japanese word for a saber! It sounds like they had it all planned and had succeeded in getting their point across.










SILLY NAME FUN

Every year after the draft ends, when I'm all done pondering the hits and misses of day, I scan down the list of 7 rounds of players looking for the funniest and silliest sounding names. There's always a bunch of them, and while this year is maybe slim talent wise, it's a banner year for those kinds of names that will either become an editor's nightmare or journalists and publicists dream.

If but half of these players make the NHL grade, the puns and witticisms will be endless. Here are some of the better ones, to which I added the first thing that came to mind.

Matt Rust: No one's been at his door in a while!
Ryan Thang: Does his crash and bang thang!
Maxim Gratchev: Extreme case of Russian jock itch!
Ryan Molle: Too soft for the NHL.
Paul Posta: Goes postal!
Ben Winnett: He won't Winnett in Toronto
Ben Blood: First member of Blood, Sweatt, and Turris fantasy hockey line.
Bill Sweatt: The only sweat you'll find on new Reebok jerseys.
Kyle Turris: A Turris attraction for Phoenix
Zack Torquato: Coolest name in the draft after Max Pacioretty and Ben Blood
Linus Omark: Siblings are named Snoopy and Rerun.
Patrick Maroon: Could be on an NHL version of Survivor or Lost
Tyson Sexsmith: Blacksmith, locksmith, sexsmith; which trade would you like to master?
Luca Caputi: Caputi goes kaput!
Nick Eno: Throws up before every game!
Ryan Gendur: Gendur bendur!
Trevor Nill: Not much chance!
Trevor Cann: A little better chance!
Jake Muzzin: Things are buzzin' with Muzzin
Oscar Mollar: Hope he's got all his teeth!

Just call me Mike!






Luca Cunti: Headline nightmare in the fine tradition of Corey Pecker and Yataka Fukufuji.
Cade Fairchild: Wasn't Kate Fairchild an actress?
Cody Almond: Coaty? Sounds like a delicious snack.